Monday, January 16, 2012

[Simply Computers] Re: Hosting game problem

 

Hi All,

I turned on the fire walls on both PCs and enabled the ports for this game. We still cannot play together. We can both host games that other people join from the net. But we cannot join each others rooms. If someone on the net other than us creates a room, we can both join that room with no problem. It is both PCs that have this problem, not one or the other.

Thanks for all of your help so far.

--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "RogerX19" <helpmeroger@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bryce
>
> Good thoughts.
>
> But if the firewall on the "bad" computer is blocking the port that the game needs, it will block it whether using the Internet, or just the local network.
>
> That can be changes, but I have a feeling that the port is blocked by default.
>
> rogerX
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, B Welkin <welkinator@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > Just a WAG here but if you are trying to reach each other's "rooms"
> > by first going out to an Internet based server then back to your
> > companion's internal computer with their responses routed the same
> > way - out and back - in reverse I would think that this could not
> > work since the >external< IP for both you and your companion would be the same.
> >
> > When you make a request for an external server (say,
> > www-dot-microsoft-) through your server, your router presents your
> > external IP to microsoft then correctly routes the reply to your
> > particular computer using your private internal IP.
> >
> > I would think, however, that you should be able to have a private
> > party (a "room") with just you and your companion within your private
> > local network.
> >
> > But I could be wrong.
> >
> > ...Bryce
> >
> > At 10:38 AM 1/4/2012, you wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Rogerx19,
> > >
> > >I went into the Netgear modem/router and opened the ports needed for
> > >the game. The game was not listed in the Exceptions list. It still
> > >does not work. The other computer still shows my ping as 9999.
> > >Just more info for you. We do not use the windows firewall, we use
> > >the modem/router firewall. Should we use both?
> > >To make sure I am not confusing anyone. Both PCs will join online
> > >games with no problem as well as create rooms and have people from
> > >the internet join our rooms. We just cannot join each others rooms.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >--- In
> > ><mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> > >"RogerX19" <helpmeroger@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It could totally be due to port triggering.
> > > >
> > > > You need to look at the Windows Firewall on the new computer, and
> > > compare the settings to the computer that works.
> > > >
> > > > A firewall denies ALL traffic, then makes Exceptions for the
> > > traffic that the User actually wants. Normally, http traffic
> > > (Internet access) is allowed both ways by default (or else your
> > > Internet would not work)
> > > >
> > > > Email is also allowed, through a different "pinhole" in the
> > > firewall, aka Port.
> > > >
> > > > Your FarCry game probably uses an outgoing port that is not
> > > enabled through the firewall, therefore Ping fails.
> > > >
> > > > Look in the Exceptions list on the computer that works, and you should
> > > > be able to determine which port FarCry uses. You will need to
> > > enable that port on the other computer.
> > > >
> > > > In fact, Far Cry may be already in the list of programs under
> > > Exceptions, and you just need to Enable it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > let us know ..
> > > >
> > > > rogerX
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In
> > > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "mybnprofile" <mybnsfrr1@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi David,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just tried every IP type address I can find in my
> > > modem/Router. One of them gets to the point that it asks for the
> > > password of the room I created, then it tells them they cannot join
> > > at this time. So it gets close. My ping still shows as 9999. Could
> > > it be something to do with port forwarding or port triggering?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In
> > > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> > > Brendan Kelly <confus3d@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So you're on the same LAN and you're trying to connect to the
> > > external IP
> > > > > > address?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Have you tried connecting to the internal address instead of
> > > the external
> > > > > > address ( will be a 10.x.x.x, 172.16.x.x or 192.168.x.x
> > > number). You won't
> > > > > > be able to connect to the external IP address from within the LAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > On 02/01/2012 7:24 AM, "mybnprofile" <mybnsfrr1@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you for responding.
> > > > > > > The game is Far Cry 2. We hope to solve the problem before
> > > Far Cry 3 comes
> > > > > > > out this year.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thank you again for your help
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In
> > > <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> > > David Ron <david.m.ron@>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This is totally on topic. It does sound like an issue
> > > related to how
> > > > > > > > routers share your connection with multiple computers
> > > using "Network
> > > > > > > > Address Translation". Depending on the game, there may be
> > > a workaround.
> > > > > > > > What's the game?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --David
> > > > > > > > Please pardon my terseness; sent from my phone.
> > > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2011 5:02 PM, "mybnprofile" <mybnsfrr1@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi All,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I hope this topic is allowed here. If not please let me know.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have a PC game that I can host as multiplayer online
> > > and have people
> > > > > > > > > join my room. That all works great. The problem I am
> > > having is that I
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > another PC here that family members want to play in my
> > > multiplayer
> > > > > > > games
> > > > > > > > > and cannot join. the game on the other PC tells them
> > > that they cannot
> > > > > > > join
> > > > > > > > > at this time try again later and my ping shows as 9999.
> > > The other PC
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > join other rooms in the game, just not mine. Well try
> > > again later has
> > > > > > > gone
> > > > > > > > > on for about 2 years now with no change. I have looked
> > > at the game
> > > > > > > website
> > > > > > > > > and many others for a solution, with no luck. From what
> > > I have seen on
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > of the websites is that it is a modem/router issue,
> > > because we are
> > > > > > > behind
> > > > > > > > > the same modem/router. I have a Netgear B90-755025-15
> > > modem/Router
> > > > > > > that I
> > > > > > > > > just received from the phone company. I had hopes that
> > > the new router
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > solve this problem. Though that is not why I got a new
> > > one. I don't
> > > > > > > know a
> > > > > > > > > thing about ports, so any help would need to be step by
> > > step. I don't
> > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > if I can name the game on the group or not, It would
> > > pobably be hard to
> > > > > > > > > help me without that info. just let me know and if it's
> > > OK I will. It
> > > > > > > is an
> > > > > > > > > older game from 2008.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Host PC
> > > > > > > > > emachines ET1161-07
> > > > > > > > > Vista Home Premium 32bit
> > > > > > > > > AMD Athlon dual core processor 4050e 2.10 GHz
> > > > > > > > > 3.0GB Ram
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Other PC
> > > > > > > > > Compaq Presario SR5233WM
> > > > > > > > > Vista Home Premium 32bit
> > > > > > > > > Intel Pentium D 2.8GHz
> > > > > > > > > 4.0GB ram
> > > > > > > > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

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