yes trying i am playing with the ideas
--- On Mon, 8/29/11, B Welkin <welkinator@gmail.com> wrote:
From: B Welkin <welkinator@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] Re: Scan then type then print ?
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 1:43 PM
I don't exactly know what is going on here with
all the explanations of this but somehow we're
not communicating very clearly with you.
YOU CANNOT SCAN INTO A WORD PROCESSING
APPLICATION LIKE WORD OR OPEN OFFICE AND BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE THE TEXT.
Scanning produces a PICTURE not a text document.
As has been explained several times before, you
CAN send the PICTURE into an OCR application
which then attempts to decipher the
dots-within-the-picture as recognizable
alpha-numeric characters and outputs an editable
text document. But these attempts are clumsy and often don't work well.
In my opinion, the two best answers you have
gotten to this fill-in-the-form problem is to
either 1) print the form 2) put the form back
into the printer then 3) then print, FROM A NEW
DOCUMENT, the data that should go onto the form - aligned to fit the spaces.
The better answer, provided by Ron David, is to
Insert the form AS A PICTURE (which it is, as
we've explained before) into a blank document
and, using a drawing tool (found in both Word and
Open Office and likely others), insert text boxes
in the appropriate fill-in-the-blank spaces, then type in your data and print.
Don't over think this; as Yoda says, "No try - DO"
...Bryce
At 09:17 AM 8/29/2011, you wrote:
>Hum think i ll try having a scan saving into
>open office then see if i add and delete text
>etc from their didn t know open office can do
>that . . . think i can find open office in
>scan mode with a kodak printer - later
>
>--- On Mon, 8/29/11, Sue
><<mailto:whichsue%40yahoo.ca>whichsue@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>From: Sue <<mailto:whichsue%40yahoo.ca>whichsue@yahoo.ca>
>Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Scan then type then print ?
>To:
><mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Monday, August 29, 2011, 9:43 AM
>
>Â
>
>I forgot to mention we worked entirely in DOS
>back then. We didn't have scanners or the
>earlier versions of Windows. We used WordPerfect
>4.2!! We didn't have any other software except
>Lotus 123. Basically all you are doing is using
>advance codes to place the text in the exact
>place on the page to fit into the boxes when you
>finally print the document over the form. This
>is not a quick method, but 23, yes 23 years ago,
>I counted backwards to when I worked there, this
>was the only solution I could come up with given
>the software I had to work with. We filled out
>dozens of forms every day using this merge. They
>used to be done on a typewriter, but all the
>typewriters were taken away when the computers
>arrived. Just like Government, doing things
>without thinking of the consequences first.
>
>After I did the first box then I didn't print
>until I had all the other advance codes set up.
>Even so it did take half a day to get the job
>done. Today I would use some kind of publishing
>or presentation software and get the job done much quicker.
>
>--- In
><mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
>David Ron <david.m.ron@...> wrote:
> >
> > This is similar to the video except this solution places text over a plain
> > white document to print out over a copy of the original instead of simply
> > placing the text over a scanned image. This will waste a ton of paper and
> > take a very long time to position all of the text appropriately, but avoids
> > the need for a scanner.
> >
> > - David
> > On Aug 28, 2011 11:17 AM, "Sue" <whichsue@...> wrote:
> > > Years ago, 20+, I worked for a Government
> Department and was asked to find
> > a way of filling out pre-printed forms on the
> computer. I was not allowed to
> > remake the form in it's entirety on the computer so came up with this
> > solution. We used WordPerfect software at the
> time. Any good word processing
> > software should work the same way.
> > >
> > > First you need a ruler that measures in
> 10ths of an inch. Measure from the
> > top of the form to the first place you need to insert text let us say 1.6
> > inches down. Then measure from the left of the page to where you want the
> > text to begin, say 1.4 inches in. Pick your font wisely not too large. I
> > used WordPerfects advance feature to insert an advance code 1.6 inches down
> > and 1.4 inches in from the edges of the
> paper. Type your text and then print
> > just this first effort. Hold up the form you are filing in with the page
> > with the first text printed on top matching the edges of both sheets to the
> > light to make sure it is in the right
> position. If not then make adjustments
> > until it is where you want it to be. If you have to make adjustments make
> > the same fine tuning adjustments to all the other advance codes you insert
> > later. You then continue inserting advance codes into the document on your
> > screen for all the other boxes you need to fill in. (When I had everything
> > in the right place I turned this into an
> onscreen merge to make form filling
> > really quick. You will not need to do that for a one time use.)
> > >
> > > NEVER print on the original form ALWAYS use a copy, printer problems
> > sometimes miss-feed your paper and you don't want to lose your only copy.
> > >
> > > You could also do this in a Desktop Publishing software too as explained
> > in an earlier post. What you do there is have
> layers of text placed over the
> > picture (your form). This is a lot of work to do to just fill out one form
> > one time. I would personally not want to do that. Would use my tidiest
> > handwriting instead.
> > >
> > > Sue
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> Robert Burns <joyseyhere@>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Where to start " interpreting " no idea about that; need more details
> > pretty amusing and yes a 29 second video isn
> t good enough to understand and
> > yes just loaded the latest version of open office so will try that soon and
> > wonder if i cut / paste what i might scan must try our davids idea see how
> > it works and look . . . later . .
> > >>
> > >> --- On Sun, 8/28/11, waltmatheus
> <<mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> From: waltmatheus
> <<mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Scan then type then print ?
> > >> To:
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 2:55 AM
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Â
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Robert, I am having trouble interpreting your posts because of the lack
> > of sentence structure. Please try to separate your thoughts/comments with
> > periods, commas, and/or paragraphs.
> > >>
> > >> David, that video is a far cry from, "you can see how easy it is". Easy
> > to someone already familiar with the concept and the use of OO. Not easy at
> > all when one must interpret and try to
> understand the process in 29 seconds.
> > I watched it a number of times and still have
> no idea what you were clicking
> > on.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In
> <mailto:simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com,
> Robert Burns <joyseyhere@>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Ok i ll post the office error will try it again can t wait to try you
> > idea sounds great if i understand it .
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > From: David Ron <david.m.ron@>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] Scan then type then print ?
> > >> > Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 1:37 AM
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm really only familiar with openoffice. So, I'd like to know why >
> > that didn't work for you. What doyou mean by "weird "?
> > >> >
> > >> > -David
> > >>
> > >> > On Aug 27, 2011 10:33 PM, "Robert Burns" <joyseyhere@> wrote:
> > >> > > wow very fast video and no audio hum open office would open for me
> > its
> > >> > weird so using abiword and trying what
> might be the best word processor
> > I B
> > >> > M lotus does that work with your idea ? seems that i scan it then
> > >> > select all then copy to abi or lotus and then type away in the blanks
> > and
> > >> > bingo ? ? later . . .
> > >>
> > >> > > From: David Ron <david.m.ron@>
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] Scan then type then print ?
> > >> > > Date: Sunday, August 28, 2011, 12:17 AM
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Yes. A background image is an image that goes behind the text. This
> > is a
> > >> > similar method that professional graphic artists use to touch up
> > photographs
> > >> > (although, they call it "layering").
> This is also similar to the advice
> > to
> > >> > create a document and print it out over the top of a pre-printed form,
> > but
> > >> > you can save yourself a lot of wasted
> paper by seeing exactly where the
> > text
> > >> > will go before you print a single page. I posted a video on youtube
> > about
> > >> > how it works so you can see how easy it is:
> > >> > >
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1BI2RiM05w>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1BI2RiM05w
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Notice how the application is an exact
> pixel-for-pixel representation
> > of
> > >> > the original document. No OCR software will give you anything even
> > close to
> > >> > this quality.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --David
> > >>
> > >> > > On 08/23/2011 11:49 PM, Robert Burns wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> this what you recommended . . . backround image ??
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I've solved this problem in the past by taking the scanned
> > >> > >> image, bringing it in as a BACKGROUND IMAGE to a document in
> > Microsoft
> > >> > Word
> > >> > >> or LibreOffice (free), and then using the text drawing tools to
> > place
> > >> > text
> > >> > >> boxes over the places you are supposed to type. These boxes can be
> > moved
> > >> > >> around with the mouse so you can place your text exactly where it
> > >> > belongs.
> > >> > >> The resulting document is pretty and easy to edit.
> > >>
> > >> > >> From: David Ron
> > >> > >> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] Scan then type then print ?
> > >> > >> Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> What part doesn't make sense?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> - David
> > >>
> > >> > >> On Aug 22, 2011 4:51 PM, "Robert Burns" <joyseyhere@ <mailto:
> > >> > joyseyhere%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > >> > >> > hum can t picture that in my head
> > >>
> > >> > >> > From: David Ron
> > >> > >> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] Scan then type then print ?
> > >> > >> > Date: Monday, August 22, 2011, 11:52 AM
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I'm not a fan of the OCR advice because OCR generally has trouble
> > >> > >> preserving the exact look and feel of
> the original document's fonts,
> > >> > styles,
> > >> > >> and layout. I've solved this problem in the past by taking the
> > scanned
> > >> > >> image, bringing it in as a BACKGROUND IMAGE to a document in
> > Microsoft
> > >> > Word
> > >> > >> or LibreOffice (free), and then using the text drawing tools to
> > place
> > >> > text
> > >> > >> boxes over the places you are supposed to type. These boxes can be
> > moved
> > >> > >> around with the mouse so you can place your text exactly where it
> > >> > belongs.
> > >> > >> The resulting document is pretty and easy to edit.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > --David
> > >>
> > >> > >> > On 08/17/2011 09:41 PM, Robert Burns wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Ok if i scan a document like a job appication to my desk top
> > isn't
> > >> > their
> > >> > >> a program or software or something i can use to then open it and
> > type the
> > >> > >> answers in the blanks and have it look neater then handwriting and
> > then
> > >> > >> print it out and it looks great ?
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Nothing i try works pdf or rtf or tif etc using a kodak ESO 3250
> > >> > printer
> > >> > >> can; have i missed something or is it a no go because of
> > restrictions
> > >> > >> embedded by the owner or something like that ?
> > >>
> > >>
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