I requested joining 3, but I agree with you Bill. There are so many experienced and talented users on 2 - will they also be on 3. Even if they do, now we have two boards to check instead of one. I vote to shut down 3.
Gil
-----Original Message-----
From: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Aycock
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 8:18 AM
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: New Yahoo Group: Re: [Simply Computers] Re: Simplycomputers 3
Grenville--
IMHO, that is a BAD idea. you will lose continuity of help from the current
(simplycomputers2) Gurus, and a lot of participants.
Think again, and recant.
Bill--W4BSG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grenville Dixon" <gpdixon@yahoo.co.uk>
To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 3:43 AM
Subject: New Yahoo Group: Re: [Simply Computers] Re: Simplycomputers 3
> Dear All,
> I have recently created a new Yahoo Group and it is called simplycomputer3
> and you are all most welcome to join.
>
> Regards,
>
> Grenville
>
> From: waltmatheus <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
>>To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>>Sent: Saturday, 3 September 2011, 8:57
>>Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Simplycomputers 3
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>David, it does not matter how the mail is gathered, we differ on the
>>meaning of a thread.
>>
>>I cannot scroll down through the replies in this message and see what
>>Vincent(the first responder, in the first thread) wrote in reply to the
>>OP. That's because his reply, although under the same Subject, is part of
>>the first thread and not part of this one.
>>
>>I also cannot read what Bryce recently wrote about "tree structure",
>>without going to a different thread, because his reply is not part of this
>>thread.
>>
>>The "tree structure" is clearly visible on the group website wherein the
>>branches("Re:"s) are obvious. But, there are 5 branches in the first
>>thread, 5 branches in this thread and a couple of additional side branches
>>by fggybttm and Bryce. I cannot scroll down within the replies in this
>>thread to read what fggybttm and Bryce wrote(although they are in line
>>with your original response). I have to go to two different threads to
>>read those replies.
>>
>>Visible "tree structure", Yes.
>>Continuous "thread", absolutely not.
>>
>>A spool of thread has one continuous length of thread on a spool(the
>>Subject), not a number of different pieces of thread all on the same
>>spool.
>>
>>As far as I'm concerned we have proven that continuous threading is not
>>possible and, since I see no practical benefit in continuing this, these
>>are my last comments in this regard.
>>
>>
>>--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, David Ron <david.m.ron@...>
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps we don't differ and we are in fact seeing something different.
>>> All
>>> of those messages are threaded together for me in gmail on android as I
>>> type
>>> this to you. How are you reading these messages?
>>>
>>> -David
>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2011 2:34 PM, "waltmatheus" <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>> > I'm not in favor of a new group.
>>> >
>>> > David, you and I differ on just what is a "fully intact" thread.
>>> >
>>> > This thread (number 2) has Roger(the OP), David, Walt, David, and now
>>> Walt.
>>> >
>>> > The original thread (1), has Roger, Vince, Walt, C. Michael, Vince,
>>> > and
>>> Vince.
>>> >
>>> > And, then there's a third thread. Roger, and Foggy.
>>> >
>>> > All threads under the same Subject, but still 3 separate threads, not
>>> > 1
>>> "fully intact" thread.
>>
>>> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, David Ron <david.m.ron@>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> The thread is still fully intact for me on both Thunderbird and
>>> >> gmail's
>>> web site. I don't exactly see how switching to a new group would make it
>>> work any better.
>>> >>
>>> >> --David
>>
>>> >> On 09/02/2011 12:16 PM, waltmatheus wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Roger, in less than 12 hours your "Simplycomputers 3" thread has
>>> >> > broken
>>> down. That is exactly what will happen in any newly formed group.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > David replied to your original message, with no consideration given
>>> >> > to
>>> any members who had already responded. However, the others that replied
>>> did
>>> so in-thread so that there are sequential responses within the last
>>> message.
>>> Those responses are now lost to this second thread.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Some would say responding to the same Subject(Re: Simplycomputers
>>> >> > 3)
>>> keeps the comments in thread. I don't believe that to be true. My
>>> comments
>>> now are part of this second thread, rather than a continuation of the
>>> initial thread.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > This is a classic example of how and why threading goes awry.
>>
>>> >> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com <mailto:
>>> simplycomputers2%40yahoogroups.com>, David Ron <david.m.ron@> wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > Yahoo Groups is not very good about threading the messages on the
>>> >> > > web
>>> site. I think this becomes most apparent across threads that last longer
>>> than a week. I've noticed that when I read messages offline, threading
>>> is
>>> preserved almost perfectly. If you are anything more than a casual
>>> reader in
>>> this group, I strongly recommend reading through e-mail. If you tell us
>>> your
>>> mail client of choice, we can provide directions to making sure your
>>> mail
>>> gets into a folder to keep your inbox free of group-spam.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > --David
>>
>>> >> > > On 09/01/2011 10:58 PM, RogerX19 wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Vincent, David, Walter, and all:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Tho I love this board, it seems that the threads are all mixed
>>> >> > > > up!
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Answers to posts get mixed in with answers to other posts ...
>>> threads seem to get splintered, with some answers going to one, and some
>>> to
>>> another!
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > I see we have 10,000 + registered members and how many
>>> >> > > > messages?
>>> Over 208 thousand?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Just a thought: is it time to move on to Simplycomputers3 ?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > We could leave "2" right here, and just leave a final message
>>> >> > > > to
>>> all to join us in "3".
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Maybe that would get things back on track?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > rogerX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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