Why not get one of those pre-paid credit cards that you can add funds to? They have some at Wal-Mart, etc.
Joan in Reno
--- On Sat, 12/31/11, Sue <whichsue@yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Sue <whichsue@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 31, 2011, 8:00 AM
Mike thanks for that info. I had been told wrong about the system resources needed to run it. I would like to get the full paid version of Malwarebytes for the ACER because I like having instant warnings about infections, (like I do with Spybot), but do not want to put my credit card number over the internet. Any idea where in Canada I can phone to get it? Staples here does not stock it.
Sue
--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "C. Michael Stone" <Enots123@...> wrote:
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> Malwarebytes does not use more computer resources then SpyBot, so I don't understand your reasoning not to use it, but I'm sure after you start using the new Acer on DSL the old computer will just gather dust. Please do use Malwarebytes on your new computer though. It is worth far more then the price you pay for it.
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> Mike Stone
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue <whichsue@...>
> To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Dec 30, 2011 2:23 am
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
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> Mike, Thanks for the link for Malwarebytes, have bookmarked it. Also thanks for the offer of speakers. I am a lucky lady, my very generous brother has sent me Christmas cash to buy all the bells and whistles for my new ACER and since it gives 5.1 audio I have been looking at speakers on sale. Love that bass, just hope I can hear them work in the store before buying them. He also sent me a Logitech C270 webcam that has a microphone so with good speakers I will not have to use headphones to use Skype.
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> Also have to buy a keyboard as the one that came with it is not a full keyboard and I find I cannot type on those flat keys.
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> Spybot is all I can use on this XP machine not enough resources for anything else along with MSE which shuts me out of the computer while it downloads updates for almost an entire hour!! Not to worry, I have been told it will not work on DSL as it is too slow and doesn't have enough memory. Only have to put up with it for another week. Get DSL next Friday!!.
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> Sue
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> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "C. Michael Stone" <Enots123@> wrote:
> >
> > This group no longer recommends Spybot. They now feel Malwarebytes does a much better job. I would remove Spybot and install Malwarebytes.
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> >
> > Here is a link to the free version which more then adequate. Make sure you pick the free one.
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> >
> > http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_free
> >
> >
> > I have five sets of new HP speakers here gathering dust. Nothing special... I'll send you a set if you wish. These are the USB powered speakers.
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> > Mike Stone
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sue <whichsue@>
> > To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, Dec 28, 2011 2:02 am
> > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
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> >
> > OK, I'll have to choose which one is best. Would I still use the Spybot as well? It did once find a keylogger for me, MSE didn't see it, only problem I have had in 2 1/2 years on the XP machine.
> >
> > It took 3 DVDs to make the restore disks. Then a 4th to make a Backup drivers and Applications disk.
> >
> > My speakers do not work on the ACER. Luckily my downstairs neighbour let me try hers and they worked so I know that port works. My current speakers are from the Dollar Store so I was not surprised they did not work even though they work fine on the XP machine. Have to get some good ones in the sales.
> >
> > Instructions from ACER on how to make the restore disks were wrong, go figure, but I eventually found out how to do it. DO I delete the 30 day trial software now or wait until I can connect to the internet? I didn't write down what it is but it is an antivirus.
> >
> > Sue
> >
> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "C. Michael Stone" <Enots123@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Correct...only one virus protection program should be loaded on your computer
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike Stone
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: RogerX19 <helpmeroger@>
> > > To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2011 6:06 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
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> > >
> > > but not both together, right?
> > >
> > > rX
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "C. Michael Stone" <Enots123@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I think for free programs you can't beat Avast and Avira.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mike Stone
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Sue <whichsue@>
> > > > To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2011 5:15 am
> > > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to all for the info. Finally got the HDMI cable for the monitor and am going to make those disks today.
> > > >
> > > > Can't get the DSL until end of the first week of January. Staples only allows me to return the computer within 14 days if it does not work. So I hope that as long as the restore disks are able to be created that will mean it is working OK. If not, I have to return it tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > I never intended to use it with dial-up, it doesn't have a dial-up modem installed. It takes hours to get updates on dial-up and I have had enough of that. Can't wait for DSL though.
> > > >
> > > > Now have to decide what anti-virus software to use. On this old XP machine I have been using MSE and Spybot search and destroy as they work on limited system resources. What should I get for the ACER?
> > > >
> > > > Sue
> > > >
> > > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "RogerX19" <helpmeroger@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Alan,
> > > > >
> > > > > Because you said "if I wait too long that I need three DVDs instead of the usual two", it does sound like your Dells are using something like a stripped down version of Acronis' True Image.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it was just making the original, factory default restore disks, I would expect the resultant DVD(s) to be the same size, regardless of what you've added to the system.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps that is why Dell suggests making the restore disk early-on?
> > > > >
> > > > > But as long as the computer is running well, any time you make a system image is a good time!
> > > > >
> > > > > But getting back to Sue's original question, I would recommend that she make restore disks right away.
> > > > >
> > > > > rogerX
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <snavenala@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may well be wrong on that point Roger (not the first time I've been wrong
> > > > > > when it comes to computers). I'm probably assuming too much. This is a new
> > > > > > Acer and I haven't installed one of those in a long time. I work quite a bit
> > > > > > with new Dell laptops and desktops and there is already a recovery partition
> > > > > > on those PCs. Dell DataSafe Local Back-up prods you to make back-up DVDs of
> > > > > > the whole system from the start and I notice that if I wait too long that I
> > > > > > need three DVDs instead of the usual two. You can use these to go back to
> > > > > > the factory configuration without wiping off your personal files. But it's
> > > > > > obviously different to a standard set of recovery disks in other brands, so
> > > > > > I'm probably on the wrong track I agree. Dells are delivered (at least in
> > > > > > Europe) with a standard DVD containing the drivers and I order the Windows 7
> > > > > > DVD (used to be free but it costs a wee bit extra nowadays) as additional
> > > > > > insurance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I still make the two recovery DVDs although I also make Acronis images of
> > > > > > the whole system at two different stages during the installation. A bit
> > > > > > over-cautious but better safe...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > Van: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] Namens RogerX19
> > > > > > Verzonden: zondag 18 december 2011 22:13
> > > > > > Aan: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Onderwerp: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Alan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I may be wrong, but I think you're confusing the Backup disks that Windows
> > > > > > can make, with the Recovery disks that computer manufacturers used to
> > > > > > supply.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As you know, nowadays computers don't come with Recovery disks, the
> > > > > > manufacturers expect you to burn your own.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As others have noted, these will restore the computer to factory default,
> > > > > > and will not include any updates you have made to it. They will, however,
> > > > > > include any drivers that are necessary for that particular computer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are correct that after she has made the Recovery disks, and after she
> > > > > > has done all the Windows updates, she should run the Windows Backup and
> > > > > > Restore utility, and "Create a system image", either onto an external hard
> > > > > > drive, or onto DVDs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the Backup and Restore utility, there is also a "Create a system repair
> > > > > > disc", which may be helpful in the future.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rogerX
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <snavenala@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sue, I would wait if I were you. A powerful computer like that needs a
> > > > > > > good, fast Internet connection for various reasons.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I'm installing a new computer here, the first thing I do is update
> > > > > > > Windows 7. Then 2) I remove programs like the standard trial version
> > > > > > > of the installed antivirus program, usually McAfee, Norton or Trend
> > > > > > > Micro, plus other trial versions of paid programs, and download and 3)
> > > > > > > install a good free antivirus program and accompanying maintenance
> > > > > > > programs like CCleaner and Malwarebytes. Solid protection.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For these three basic operations you need a good Internet connection.
> > > > > > > There's lots more to download after that - other updates and fun programs.
> > > > > > > Simply put, dial-up isn't going to do it justice and you'll end up
> > > > > > > frustrated and struggling because some of these updates are 'really'
> > > > > > > big. It would be a shame because you have a really nice computer there
> > > > > > > with good hardware specs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you don't have Window 7's Service Pack 1 on there for instance and
> > > > > > > you try to download that on a dial-up connection, I think you'll end
> > > > > > > up regretting it. Better to wait till you have DSL at the end of the
> > > > > > > month and enjoy the computer the way it's meant to be. You'll get good
> > > > > > > advice here about how to do that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once you've brought your Windows 7 up to date, you can burn your
> > > > > > > recovery disks (usually two DVDs). I would do that just after you've
> > > > > > > updated Windows
> > > > > > > 7 because the back-up program makes an image of exactly what's on your
> > > > > > > system at that moment. So before installing lots of new programs.
> > > > > > Otherwise
> > > > > > > you'll need more DVDs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Installing a new computer is fun. Everything downloads fast and
> > > > > > > installs smoothly but you need a rough idea about what to download and
> > > > > > > install. We can help with that. But I think most members would agree
> > > > > > > that installing a new computer like you have on dial-up would be no
> > > > > > > fun at all. I shudder at the thought personally having worked in the
> > > > > > > past with 56 kbit/s dial-up connections. Obviously some members have
> > > > > > > no choice with geographical location and I don't want to offend
> > > > > > > anybody but you'll need the patience of a saint if you use dial-up with
> > > > > > your new computer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Put the computer away in a corner and pat it occasionally until the
> > > > > > > end of the month ;-) Only 12 days to go. Just my recommendation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > > > > Van: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] Namens Sue
> > > > > > > Verzonden: zondag 18 december 2011 18:44
> > > > > > > Aan: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Onderwerp: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Finally got a new computer $429.86 CDN + tax, on sale, to replace this
> > > > > > > 11 year old dinosaur. Currently have dial-up internet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will not be able to have DSL until the end of the month and am
> > > > > > > wondering if I should turn it on and make the restore disks before I
> > > > > > > get it hooked up to the internet or wait. The saleswoman told me to
> > > > > > > wait as it would want to update Windows 7 and that any DVDs would be OK.
> > > > > > I got Staples brand DVD+R.
> > > > > > > Have never had a new modern computer (DOS baby) so am not sure how to
> > > > > > > proceed. Please advise. Specs below.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > > Sue
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3.3GHz Intel Core i3 2120 Processor; 3MB Cache 4GB system memory 1TB
> > > > > > > SATA hard drive 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive Windows 7 Home Premium
> > > > > > > Intel HD graphics 2000 High-definition audio with 5.1-channel audio
> > > > > > > support Connectivity options include Gigabit Ethernet LAN and Wireless
> > > > > > > LAN 802.11b/g/n
> > > > > > > Multi-in-1 memory card reader
> > > > > > > Ports include 3 x USB 3.0 and 10 x USB 2.0 Includes Acer USB keyboard
> > > > > > > and optical mouse
> > > > > > > Dimensions: 16.46"(H) x 7.08"(W) x 15.16"(D)
> > > > > > > Weight: 17 lb.
> > > > > > > 1-year limited warranty
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Specifications Processor 3.3GHz Intel Core i3 2120 Memory 4GB Memory
> > > > > > > Type
> > > > > > > DDR3 Maximum Memory Supported Not Avail. Hard Drive 1TB SATA Hard
> > > > > > > Drive Speed Not Avail. CD-DVD Drive 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive
> > > > > > > Blu-ray Drive No Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium Ethernet LAN
> > > > > > > Gigabit Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n Bluetooth No Graphics Intel HD
> > > > > > > Graphics 2000 # of USB Slots 2 x USB 3.0, 10 x USB 2.0 Media Card
> > > > > > > Reader 9-in-1 Ports HDMI, VGA, Headphone, Microphone, RJ-45 Other
> > > > > > > Features Includes Acer USB Keyboard and Optical Mouse Energy Star
> > > > > > > Qualified Not Avail. Dimensions 16.46"(H) x 7.08"(W) x
> > > > > > > 15.16"(D) Weight 17 lb. Warranty 1-Year Limited
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