Okay Jeanne, thanks for the info about the CPU. That explains it. I'm assuming (hoping) that he's
now going to send you 2x PC800-40ns instead of the 45ns since the 45 obviously won't work on your
system. Did the seller mention this as a probable reason? Your processor is above the maximum 2.2
Ghz. for 45ns. In the Dell 8200 I tried here, PC800-45ns works fine because it's a 1.8 Ghz.
processor. It's sometimes difficult to catch all the little idiosyncrasies of RDRAM memory.
Glad to hear he's helpful and providing a good service! Hope the next set gets you up and running.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeanne M Irons" <peaceofheavenrottweilers@yahoo.com>
To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Dell Memory
> Hi Alan,
>
> System----4CPU 2.53GHz 2.52GHz.256MB of RAM
>
> Yes, we did put the 2 new ones in the 1 & 2 slot, leaving the dummies in 3 & 4.
>
> I did contact the seller & he is very nice, told me to send these back & he'll send 2 that go with
> this. So it was an unwanted glitch but I've waited this long, another week won't kill me :-) and
> he's excellent on shipping too, I had this memory in like 2 days. Not as good as having one of you
> list guys living in my neighborhood but not terrible either, lol
>
> Jeanne
>
>
>
> Hi Jeanne,
>
>
>
> It is the correct memory (in theory) for your Dell 8200, according to the advertisement as well.
>
> There's little difference between PC800-45ns and PC800-40ns. They should both work in your
> machine,
>
> depending on your processor (see below).
>
> I'm wondering about a few things:
>
>
>
> Can you tell me your processor (CPU) speed? You'll see it in System in the Control Panel. I just
>
> noticed this little warning in Product description if you click on 'Return to product information'
>
> in the advertisement:
>
> "Dell Dimension 8200 8100 PC800-45 RDRAM 1GB (2X512MB) Rambus RIMM will work with CPU 2.2GHz or
>
> lower."
>
>
>
> This may be significant if you have a stronger processor. See one of the reviews for this product
> by
>
> somebody called Weevil:
>
> "Product is performing fine, really sped up processing on home desktop computer. One issue though,
> I
>
> didn't know that the speed (40ns versus 45ns) was dependent on processor speed, so had to send
> back
>
> the first pair and pay to have the second set shipped. Not quite such a good deal after that, but
>
> the product works great."
>
> http://tinyurl. com/3wywo6k
>
>
>
> Did you follow the correct procedure? - i.e.
>
> Replace the 2x 128 MB modules with the 2x 512 MB modules in the exact same RIMM slots?
>
> Also, did you leave the dummy (continuity) modules in place?
>
> Did they click solidly into place when you inserted them so that the white notches go back to the
>
> upright position?
>
>
>
> The thing is this RDRAM has very specific requirements. If you look at the Dell manual for adding
>
> memory for this machine, you'll see that the dummy modules will only function in RIMMS 3 and 4.
> The
>
> normal 2x 512 MB modules go in RIMMS 1 and 2 nearest the processor.
>
> http://support. euro.dell. com/support/ edocs/systems/ dim8200/replace. htm#1101964
>
>
>
> Is there any chance that you took all the modules out and maybe put the continuity modules back in
>
> RIMMS 1 and 2 by mistake?
>
> Or that you left the older 128 MB modules in there along with the new ones? As I said before this
>
> will also lead to problems since your old 128 MB modules are non-ECC and these new ones are ECC.
>
> They don't like each other. The only configuration that will probably work at the moment is the 2x
>
> 512 MB in RIMMS 1 and 2 and the dummy modules in RIMMS 3 and 4.
>
>
>
> Coincidentally I have a Dell 8200 and a Dell 8250 sitting here that the owners put out to pasture.
>
> They're still working. The 8200 has 4x Kingston 128 MB PC800-45ns and the 8250 has 4x 256 MB
>
> PC800-40ns (two different brands). I just swapped both sets of modules and they work fine in both
>
> machines - the Dell 8200 has a 1.8 Ghz. processor and the 8250 actually has a 2.4 Ghz. processor.
>
> The PC800-45ns still worked in there.
>
>
>
> If the above doesn't help, I'd contact the seller since they specified a years's guarantee in
> their
>
> advertisement. They should replace them if they still don't work after any advice they may give
>
> themselves. Although there's not much you can try. It either works or it doesn't if you have them
> in
>
> the correct RIMM slots.
>
>
>
> Ah, the joys of RDRAM......
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jeanne M Irons" <peaceofheavenrottwe ilers@yahoo. com>
>
> To: <simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 2:29 PM
>
> Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Dell Memory
>
>
>
>> Resending with, I hope, a better link........
>
>>
>
>> Ok, so I bought.....
>
>>
>
>> http://www.amazon. com/gp/offer- listing/B000J658 CU/ref=dp_ olp_used? ie=UTF8&m= A2WRERIMEQIKWL&
>> condition= used
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> but when I installed it, a message screen came up & said.....
>
>>
>
>> Unsupported memory detected in slots. System halted & that I should install RDRam PC800-40ns or
>
>> faster
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Ack!! What does that mean & what do I need to do please?
>
>>
>
>> Thanks,
>
>>
>
>> Jeanne
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I'm sure I did.....I wasn't sure if it
>
>> was a 6....8....or G but I
>
>> figured with the rest of it, you would know what I was posting. Thanks
>
>> for your help, I'm off to shop!
>
>>
>
>> Jeanne
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Posted by: "Alan"
>
>> snavenala@xs4all. nl
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> almoem50>
>
>> Mon May 23, 2011 5:10 pm (PDT)>
>
>>
>
>> I think you may have a couple of numbers wrong there Jeanne - it's 128 MB in the 1st line
>> and probably ....CM8 in the second line instead of CMB. This is 128 MB non-ECC Samsung memory, so
>> they won't mix with those 'used' modules we were looking at on Amazon, which are all ECC. But
>> that's no big deal. If you go for 2x 512 MB and you have 1024 MB total, you won't notice much
>> difference in speed even if you were able to mix them with the 2x 128 MB that you have now. Your
>> current modules probably look like this:
>
>>
>
>> http://cgi.ebay.
>
>> com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& _trksid=p4340. l2557&item=
>
>> 200421189775& nma=true& rt=nc&si= LCwp398RtetoksEo
>
>> PfOoccNwDpI% 253D
>
>>
>
> I think if you go for the used 2x 512 MB and install those instead of the 128 MB modules, you'll
> be fine. It's a huge increase in performance over what you have now. Should be fun. The RIMM
> modules advertised are specifically for your kind of Dell and they have a good warranty, so
> there's little risk. This type of memory is usually rock solid. I never had a problem upgrading
> Dell 8100s or 8200s when they were popular.
>
>>
> You probably have two 'dummy' (fake) modules in the other slots which are necessary for
>
>> continuity.
>
>>
> All the RAM slots need to be filled on a RDRAM system. Just replace the two 128 MB modules with
> the two 512 MB ones, leave the dummies in place and take it from there.If you decide to go for the
> 2x 512 MB kit, it might be a good idea to mail or call the seller first as I see that each seller
> only has one kit of used available. Just to make sure it's still in stock before you place your
> order and pay for it.
>
>>
>
> Alan
>
>>
>
> Original Message -----
>
>>
>
>> From: "Jeanne M Irons" <peaceofheavenrottw e ilers@yahoo. com>
>
> To: <simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:31 AM
>
> Subject: [Simply Computers] Re: Dell Memory
>
>>
>
> Hi Alan,
>
>
> Yes, I had printed out all of the info you gave me....it is very good to have!
>
> How much.....as much as I can :-) but still have things running right.
>
> Old & new.....what are your thoughts? I want to do this as painlessly as possible so is it a good
> idea to mix old & new or should I go with all new?
>
> Of the choices you gave for 2x 512 MB, is that in addition to what I have or instead of?
>
> I did look at one of mine & on it is......
>
> 1st line.....Korea 0234h 126MB/4
>
> 2nd line....MR16R1624AF O-CMB 800-40 011
>
> That's on the sticker. I see no mention of ECC?
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
>
> Jeanne
>
>>
>
> Hi Jeanne,
>
>>
>
> So you're finally taking the plunge... I remember giving you info about your RDRAM in June last
> year. You had 256 MB (2x 128 MB) of memory at the time and I assume it hasn't changed. The
> question is - how much do you want to add? And do you want to combine the old with new memory? I
> have no idea of your budget but I wouldn't install more than 2x 512 MB, even though you can go up
>
> to 2 GB. The cost of this type of memory just outweighs the value of the computer.
>
>>
>
> You're on the right page for PC800 for your Dell. You'll need a kit - two identical modules. I
> used to buy these used since they were cheaper and they're just as good as new. On Amazon most of
> the used sellers give some kind of guarantee as well. A new 1 GB kit costs around $65 and a used
> kit costs about $40. New is horribly expensive compared to newer DDR type memory but that's how it
> is
>
> with RDRAM. It's scarce. I'd recommend installing 1 GB to enjoy a substantial difference in speed.
> Personally I'd go for used from a reliable seller in this case. If you want to go for 2x 512 MB,
> this looks good:
> http://www.amazon. com/gp/offer- listing/B000J658 CU/ref=dp_ olp_used? ie=UTF8&m=
> A2WRERIMEQIKWL&condition= used
> - 97% positive ratings and 1 year warranty.
>
> or either of these for $40:
>
> http://www.amazon. com/gp/product/ B000J658CU/ ref=ox_sc_ act_title_ 1?ie=UTF8& m=A21B2BUK2Z8B72
>
> http://www.amazon. com/gp/product/ B000J658CU/ ref=ox_sc_ act_title_ 4?ie=UTF8& m=A2IXUIOVMBEVB9
>
>>
>
> If you just want to increase to 512 MB (2x256 MB), this is extremely cheap at $15 from
>
>>
>
> Link-Tronics:
> http://www.amazon. com/gp/product/ B001AQYO96/ ref=ox_sc_ act_title_ 3?ie=UTF8& m=A2WRERIMEQIKWL
>
>
> Then again, you could buy 4 of these 256 MB modules since you have 4 slots on the motherboard.
>
>>
>
> Then you'd be getting 1 GB for $30. That's a very good deal for this type of memory..... It makes
> no difference if you use 2 x 512 MB or 4 x 256 MB. Just slightly more risk with the 4 x256 MB if
> one of the modules is defective, since they work in conjunction.
>
>>
>
> If you were thinking of combining these with your current modules, beware. Looking at the photos,
> these are nearly all ECC modules and they will work fine in your 8200 even though the Dell
> documentation says it should be non-ECC. What won't work is if you have non-ECC in there at the
> moment and you try to combine it with ECC. ECC and non-ECC don't mix. You'd have to have a look at
> the labels on the modules in your PC if you're thinking of combining with the old memory. It
> tells you there. If they're ECC, there should be no problem combining. Although 256 MB is so
> little, I wouldn't take this much into account when you're buying new modules.
>
>>
>
> Alan
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Jeanne M Irons" <peaceofheavenrottw e ilers@yahoo. com>
>
> To: <simplycomputers2@ yahoogroups. com>
>
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 5:34 AM
>
> Subject: [Simply Computers] Dell Memory
>
>>
>
> Hi guys....
>
>>
>
> This is my computer.... ..
>
>>
>
> http://support. dell.com/ support/edocs/ systems/dim8200/ specs.htm
>
>>
>
> and this is an Amazon link.......
>
>>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref= nb_sb_noss? url=search- alias%3Delectron ics&field-keywords=
> %09PC800+ ECC%2Fnon- ECC+RDRAM+ RIMM&x=9& y=23
>
>>
>
> Can you look & tell me which one is the right one for my set up? With so many choices, I want to
> make sure I get the right ones for my computer.
>
>
>
>
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>
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