Correct...only one virus protection program should be loaded on your computer
Mike Stone
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From: RogerX19 <helpmeroger@earthlink.net>
To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2011 6:06 am
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
but not both together, right?
rX
--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "C. Michael Stone" <Enots123@...> wrote:
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> I think for free programs you can't beat Avast and Avira.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sue <whichsue@...>
> To: simplycomputers2 <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Dec 27, 2011 5:15 am
> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
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> Thanks to all for the info. Finally got the HDMI cable for the monitor and am going to make those disks today.
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> Can't get the DSL until end of the first week of January. Staples only allows me to return the computer within 14 days if it does not work. So I hope that as long as the restore disks are able to be created that will mean it is working OK. If not, I have to return it tomorrow.
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> I never intended to use it with dial-up, it doesn't have a dial-up modem installed. It takes hours to get updates on dial-up and I have had enough of that. Can't wait for DSL though.
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> Now have to decide what anti-virus software to use. On this old XP machine I have been using MSE and Spybot search and destroy as they work on limited system resources. What should I get for the ACER?
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> Sue
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> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "RogerX19" <helpmeroger@> wrote:
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> > Hi Alan,
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> > Because you said "if I wait too long that I need three DVDs instead of the usual two", it does sound like your Dells are using something like a stripped down version of Acronis' True Image.
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> > If it was just making the original, factory default restore disks, I would expect the resultant DVD(s) to be the same size, regardless of what you've added to the system.
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> > Perhaps that is why Dell suggests making the restore disk early-on?
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> > But as long as the computer is running well, any time you make a system image is a good time!
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> > But getting back to Sue's original question, I would recommend that she make restore disks right away.
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> > rogerX
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> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <snavenala@> wrote:
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> > > I may well be wrong on that point Roger (not the first time I've been wrong
> > > when it comes to computers). I'm probably assuming too much. This is a new
> > > Acer and I haven't installed one of those in a long time. I work quite a bit
> > > with new Dell laptops and desktops and there is already a recovery partition
> > > on those PCs. Dell DataSafe Local Back-up prods you to make back-up DVDs of
> > > the whole system from the start and I notice that if I wait too long that I
> > > need three DVDs instead of the usual two. You can use these to go back to
> > > the factory configuration without wiping off your personal files. But it's
> > > obviously different to a standard set of recovery disks in other brands, so
> > > I'm probably on the wrong track I agree. Dells are delivered (at least in
> > > Europe) with a standard DVD containing the drivers and I order the Windows 7
> > > DVD (used to be free but it costs a wee bit extra nowadays) as additional
> > > insurance.
> > >
> > > I still make the two recovery DVDs although I also make Acronis images of
> > > the whole system at two different stages during the installation. A bit
> > > over-cautious but better safe...
> > >
> > > Alan
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> > >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] Namens RogerX19
> > > Verzonden: zondag 18 december 2011 22:13
> > > Aan: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
> > >
> > > Hi Alan,
> > >
> > > I may be wrong, but I think you're confusing the Backup disks that Windows
> > > can make, with the Recovery disks that computer manufacturers used to
> > > supply.
> > >
> > > As you know, nowadays computers don't come with Recovery disks, the
> > > manufacturers expect you to burn your own.
> > >
> > > As others have noted, these will restore the computer to factory default,
> > > and will not include any updates you have made to it. They will, however,
> > > include any drivers that are necessary for that particular computer.
> > >
> > > You are correct that after she has made the Recovery disks, and after she
> > > has done all the Windows updates, she should run the Windows Backup and
> > > Restore utility, and "Create a system image", either onto an external hard
> > > drive, or onto DVDs.
> > >
> > > In the Backup and Restore utility, there is also a "Create a system repair
> > > disc", which may be helpful in the future.
> > >
> > > rogerX
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Alan" <snavenala@> wrote:
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> > > > Sue, I would wait if I were you. A powerful computer like that needs a
> > > > good, fast Internet connection for various reasons.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm installing a new computer here, the first thing I do is update
> > > > Windows 7. Then 2) I remove programs like the standard trial version
> > > > of the installed antivirus program, usually McAfee, Norton or Trend
> > > > Micro, plus other trial versions of paid programs, and download and 3)
> > > > install a good free antivirus program and accompanying maintenance
> > > > programs like CCleaner and Malwarebytes. Solid protection.
> > > >
> > > > For these three basic operations you need a good Internet connection.
> > > > There's lots more to download after that - other updates and fun programs.
> > > > Simply put, dial-up isn't going to do it justice and you'll end up
> > > > frustrated and struggling because some of these updates are 'really'
> > > > big. It would be a shame because you have a really nice computer there
> > > > with good hardware specs.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't have Window 7's Service Pack 1 on there for instance and
> > > > you try to download that on a dial-up connection, I think you'll end
> > > > up regretting it. Better to wait till you have DSL at the end of the
> > > > month and enjoy the computer the way it's meant to be. You'll get good
> > > > advice here about how to do that.
> > > >
> > > > Once you've brought your Windows 7 up to date, you can burn your
> > > > recovery disks (usually two DVDs). I would do that just after you've
> > > > updated Windows
> > > > 7 because the back-up program makes an image of exactly what's on your
> > > > system at that moment. So before installing lots of new programs.
> > > Otherwise
> > > > you'll need more DVDs.
> > > >
> > > > Installing a new computer is fun. Everything downloads fast and
> > > > installs smoothly but you need a rough idea about what to download and
> > > > install. We can help with that. But I think most members would agree
> > > > that installing a new computer like you have on dial-up would be no
> > > > fun at all. I shudder at the thought personally having worked in the
> > > > past with 56 kbit/s dial-up connections. Obviously some members have
> > > > no choice with geographical location and I don't want to offend
> > > > anybody but you'll need the patience of a saint if you use dial-up with
> > > your new computer.
> > > >
> > > > Put the computer away in a corner and pat it occasionally until the
> > > > end of the month ;-) Only 12 days to go. Just my recommendation.
> > > >
> > > > Alan
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > > Van: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] Namens Sue
> > > > Verzonden: zondag 18 december 2011 18:44
> > > > Aan: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Onderwerp: [Simply Computers] My new Acer AM3970-ES30P what to do first?
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> > > > Finally got a new computer $429.86 CDN + tax, on sale, to replace this
> > > > 11 year old dinosaur. Currently have dial-up internet.
> > > >
> > > > Will not be able to have DSL until the end of the month and am
> > > > wondering if I should turn it on and make the restore disks before I
> > > > get it hooked up to the internet or wait. The saleswoman told me to
> > > > wait as it would want to update Windows 7 and that any DVDs would be OK.
> > > I got Staples brand DVD+R.
> > > > Have never had a new modern computer (DOS baby) so am not sure how to
> > > > proceed. Please advise. Specs below.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Sue
> > > >
> > > > 3.3GHz Intel Core i3 2120 Processor; 3MB Cache 4GB system memory 1TB
> > > > SATA hard drive 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive Windows 7 Home Premium
> > > > Intel HD graphics 2000 High-definition audio with 5.1-channel audio
> > > > support Connectivity options include Gigabit Ethernet LAN and Wireless
> > > > LAN 802.11b/g/n
> > > > Multi-in-1 memory card reader
> > > > Ports include 3 x USB 3.0 and 10 x USB 2.0 Includes Acer USB keyboard
> > > > and optical mouse
> > > > Dimensions: 16.46"(H) x 7.08"(W) x 15.16"(D)
> > > > Weight: 17 lb.
> > > > 1-year limited warranty
> > > >
> > > > Specifications Processor 3.3GHz Intel Core i3 2120 Memory 4GB Memory
> > > > Type
> > > > DDR3 Maximum Memory Supported Not Avail. Hard Drive 1TB SATA Hard
> > > > Drive Speed Not Avail. CD-DVD Drive 16X DVD+/-R/RW SuperMulti Drive
> > > > Blu-ray Drive No Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium Ethernet LAN
> > > > Gigabit Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n Bluetooth No Graphics Intel HD
> > > > Graphics 2000 # of USB Slots 2 x USB 3.0, 10 x USB 2.0 Media Card
> > > > Reader 9-in-1 Ports HDMI, VGA, Headphone, Microphone, RJ-45 Other
> > > > Features Includes Acer USB Keyboard and Optical Mouse Energy Star
> > > > Qualified Not Avail. Dimensions 16.46"(H) x 7.08"(W) x
> > > > 15.16"(D) Weight 17 lb. Warranty 1-Year Limited
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