Vince--
Thanks. The 1T drive is VERY underutilized, which is one reason I risked a
little downsizing. The Acronis says (if I read it right) that it will move
things OK, adjusting partition size.
The Windows Back up is confusing, maybe on purpose. I have not found a clear
statement of a procedure to use for this. As I see it, it will go from a
bootable disk to an image, then back to a bootable disk (perhaps on another
drive). That's one more extensive operation than I like.
Still doing homework.
Bill--W4BSG
----- Original Message -----
From: "vincentwinterling" <vwinterling@verizon.net>
To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
>I received some feedback from a knowledgeable list member and wanted to
>make a clarification. You stated you're moving from a 1TB drive to a 750GB
>drive. If the contents of your 1TB drive exceed 750GB you will need to take
>that fact into consideration when you move from one drive to the other.
>It's possible that if you follow my imaging directions you'll have an image
>file possibly too large for your new drive.
>
> I would first assess how much data (e.g., documents, pictures, music,
> programs) you have on the 1TB drive and then make the determination as
> Roger has suggested whether and how cloning or imaging will be your best
> option.
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "vincentwinterling"
> <vwinterling@...> wrote:
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> The scenario looks fine as you've described it. I would only substitute
>> "imaging" rather that cloning if it's me doing it.
>>
>> I agree that I would be less focused on the d:\ partition as it contains
>> an OS you're not likely to use. Again, drive imaging might be the better
>> way to salvage it, but it doesn't sound like it's an urgent thing given
>> it's age and you're no longer really using Vista.
>>
>> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Vince-- Thanks
>> > I owe you (among many) a lot. On the philosophy that I have the new
>> > Drive,
>> > why not use the insurance?, I will probably make the change--soon. The
>> > remaining question is the sequence and scenario. How is this?
>> > 1. Remove and store the current back-up drive (500Gb); it has proven
>> > its
>> > worth and has good current back-up on it.
>> > 2. Replace it with the new drive (750Gb) and make a bootable (Clone?)
>> > drive
>> > with system, applications and data from the current main drive.(C:,
>> > <1Tb) I
>> > question the need for copying D:, because that is the manufacturers
>> > back up
>> > of the original Vista. It may be easier to just copy D: for now.
>> > 3. Make the new drive the main(C:) working drive, with the current
>> > drive as
>> > reserve. Make tests and scans of the new drive until satisfied.
>> > 4. Do something with the old drive to actively use it (back-up?)
>> > I have a couple of specific questions besides a general request for
>> > commentary. What is the best way to make a bootable version of the
>> > current
>> > C:+D:,1Tb, to a slightly smaller (750Gb) drive remembering that I don't
>> > really need the current D:?
>> > And--An open request-- all pitch in. apparently we have time.
>> > Bill--W4BSG
>> > PS all this involves Windows 7 (64) Home Premium. All drives are SATA
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Vincent Winterling" <vwinterling@>
>> > To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:42 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
>> >
>> >
>> > > Here's the dilemma: Do you trust the drive or do you say it was some
>> > > unknown
>> > > anomaly with the operating system? Reason I ask is I've replaced
>> > > drives
>> > > that
>> > > got squirrely like that. Just didn't want to take a chance.
>> > >
>> > > Vincent Winterling
>> > > Vineland, NJ
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>> > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RogerX19
>> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:19 PM
>> > > To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
>> > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
>> > >
>> > > Bill,
>> > >
>> > > I am in the same boat as you ...
>> > >
>> > > this weekend my computer slowed to a crawl, including lots of "Not
>> > > Responding" Internet Explorer and other programs, so I got out my
>> > > System
>> > > Repair disk and booted with it.
>> > >
>> > > I have a few System Images, so reinstalled the latest one, only to
>> > > find
>> > > that
>> > > it was corrupt.
>> > >
>> > > I then reinstalled the next earlier one, but the computer was still
>> > > unstable. I began to wonder if it was a hardware problem (hard drive,
>> > > bad
>> > > memory, etc.)
>> > >
>> > > I ran checkdisk but it found no problems.
>> > >
>> > > Then I ran an earlier System Image and the computer runs perfectly!
>> > > However,
>> > > it was an image I made right after a full system reinstall, so much
>> > > of
>> > > what
>> > > I had on the computer is gone. That is not a big problem ... nothing
>> > > that
>> > > important.
>> > >
>> > > That was yesterday.
>> > >
>> > > Today I decided that I would try re-imaging with a later image, to
>> > > get
>> > > back
>> > > some of my deleted stuff. The re-image worked, but the computer was
>> > > slow
>> > > and
>> > > unstable.
>> > >
>> > > Then I booted with the Win7 disk and chose to reinstall Windows right
>> > > on
>> > > top
>> > > of itself. The procedure went well for awhile, then it canceled
>> > > itself. It
>> > > gave an error message that a file that it needed was corrupt or
>> > > missing,
>> > > and
>> > > an error code.
>> > >
>> > > I gave up and re-imaged the computer with my earlier System Image and
>> > > now
>> > > the computer is fine again. (using it to type this)
>> > >
>> > > I just have to reinstall a few programs that got deleted, but nothing
>> > > important.
>> > >
>> > > I see you ran two extensive hard drive checks, which didn't find any
>> > > problems, so not sure why you are going to replace your hard drive.
>> > > Didn't
>> > > you say it was working OK?
>> > >
>> > > rogerX
>> > >
>> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks, Roger.--
>> > >> This is pretty much in line with my experience and thoughts. I have
>> > >> made
>> > > the
>> > >> System repair disk, and I have the Win7 upgrade (from Vista) disk.
>> > >> (Both
>> > >> Belt and Suspenders).
>> > >> One funny thing-- The System disk (at first) would not let me run
>> > > "Upgrade"
>> > >> because it found that I had already upgraded. After I found the
>> > >> repair CD
>> > >> and could get to the backup files and (after two tries) got things
>> > >> working
>> > >
>> > >> again, Then it would let me into the Upgrade option. ??
>> > >> This group has been a real help, both contributing and
>> > >> psychologically.
>> > >> Bill--W4BSG
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "RogerX19" <helpmeroger@>
>> > >> To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:03 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Bill,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I think all the suggestions about bootable disks is for people not
>> > > running
>> > >> > Windows 7.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > As you found out, one of the things available in the Windows 7
>> > >> > Backup
>> > > and
>> > >> > Restore utility is to Create a System Repair Disc.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > This is just a bootable CD or DVD that can be used to boot the
>> > >> > computer.
>> > >
>> > >> > It has a few repair tools on it, and can be used to access any
>> > >> > System
>> > >> > Images that you created with the Backup and Restore utility. It
>> > >> > does
>> > >> > not
>> > >
>> > >> > contain the Images.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I've used it before, and it actually works quite well. I had to
>> > >> > use it
>> > >> > again yesterday when my current Windows 7 became unstable and
>> > >> > BSOD'd
>> > > with
>> > >> > some weird message that I was not able to Google a remedy for.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Acronis and all are fine for pre-Win7 computers, but Win7 doesn't
>> > >> > need
>> > > it.
>> > >> > (not sure about Vista - but I wouldn't trust it)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > For all Windows 7 users: Be sure to Create a system repair disc if
>> > >> > you
>> > >> > don't have a Microsoft Win7 installation disk, and also "Create a
>> > >> > system
>> > >
>> > >> > image" every now and then when the computer is running good.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > System Restore is fine, when it works, but when it doesn't you
>> > >> > need a
>> > >> > System Image, or you'll have to reinstall Windows from the
>> > >> > beginning.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > rogerX
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock"
>> > >> > <billaycock@>
>> > >> > wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Reply to my own post--
>> > >> >> Please forgive the errors-- the first line picked up some stuff
>> > >> >> "during
>> > >> >> boot-up)" and, near the end, the spellchecker changed "Acronis"
>> > >> >> to
>> > >> >> "Acronyms".
>> > >> >> Both, I should have spotted.
>> > >> >> Bill--W4BSG
>> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
>> > >> >> To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
>> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:05 PM
>> > >> >> Subject: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > during boot-up)Vincent, Roger, Bob Austino, and other backup
>> > >> >> > Buffs--
>
>
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