Alternatives for a clean install with a W7 upgrade disk:
http://bit.ly/iRQmh9
--- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "rogerx19" <helpmeroger@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> As I'm sure you know, most people replace an old hard drive with a new, larger one.
>
> They use a "Drive to Drive" disk cloning software to move all the data from the old drive to the new one, sector by sector and bit by bit.
>
> Because you want to go to a smaller drive, you want a disk cloning program that can do "Partition to Partition", rather than "Drive to Drive".
>
> This will allow you to clone your C: drive from the old hard drive to the new one.
>
> Then you can decide what you want to do with the old D: drive.
>
> Is your Windows 7 install DVD an upgrade disk? Will you need your Vista installation in case you ever need to use the Win7 upgrade disk?
>
> If you make Disk Images of your new Win 7 installation, you can always restore from them if needed.
>
> But if your Win 7 install disk is an Upgrade disk, you'll need Windows XP or Vista already installed to use it.
>
> rogerX
>
>
>
>
> --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@> wrote:
> >
> > Vince-- Thanks
> > I owe you (among many) a lot. On the philosophy that I have the new Drive,
> > why not use the insurance?, I will probably make the change--soon. The
> > remaining question is the sequence and scenario. How is this?
> > 1. Remove and store the current back-up drive (500Gb); it has proven its
> > worth and has good current back-up on it.
> > 2. Replace it with the new drive (750Gb) and make a bootable (Clone?) drive
> > with system, applications and data from the current main drive.(C:, <1Tb) I
> > question the need for copying D:, because that is the manufacturers back up
> > of the original Vista. It may be easier to just copy D: for now.
> > 3. Make the new drive the main(C:) working drive, with the current drive as
> > reserve. Make tests and scans of the new drive until satisfied.
> > 4. Do something with the old drive to actively use it (back-up?)
> > I have a couple of specific questions besides a general request for
> > commentary. What is the best way to make a bootable version of the current
> > C:+D:,1Tb, to a slightly smaller (750Gb) drive remembering that I don't
> > really need the current D:?
> > And--An open request-- all pitch in. apparently we have time.
> > Bill--W4BSG
> > PS all this involves Windows 7 (64) Home Premium. All drives are SATA
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Vincent Winterling" <vwinterling@>
> > To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 7:42 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
> >
> >
> > > Here's the dilemma: Do you trust the drive or do you say it was some
> > > unknown
> > > anomaly with the operating system? Reason I ask is I've replaced drives
> > > that
> > > got squirrely like that. Just didn't want to take a chance.
> > >
> > > Vincent Winterling
> > > Vineland, NJ
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RogerX19
> > > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:19 PM
> > > To: simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
> > >
> > > Bill,
> > >
> > > I am in the same boat as you ...
> > >
> > > this weekend my computer slowed to a crawl, including lots of "Not
> > > Responding" Internet Explorer and other programs, so I got out my System
> > > Repair disk and booted with it.
> > >
> > > I have a few System Images, so reinstalled the latest one, only to find
> > > that
> > > it was corrupt.
> > >
> > > I then reinstalled the next earlier one, but the computer was still
> > > unstable. I began to wonder if it was a hardware problem (hard drive, bad
> > > memory, etc.)
> > >
> > > I ran checkdisk but it found no problems.
> > >
> > > Then I ran an earlier System Image and the computer runs perfectly!
> > > However,
> > > it was an image I made right after a full system reinstall, so much of
> > > what
> > > I had on the computer is gone. That is not a big problem ... nothing that
> > > important.
> > >
> > > That was yesterday.
> > >
> > > Today I decided that I would try re-imaging with a later image, to get
> > > back
> > > some of my deleted stuff. The re-image worked, but the computer was slow
> > > and
> > > unstable.
> > >
> > > Then I booted with the Win7 disk and chose to reinstall Windows right on
> > > top
> > > of itself. The procedure went well for awhile, then it canceled itself. It
> > > gave an error message that a file that it needed was corrupt or missing,
> > > and
> > > an error code.
> > >
> > > I gave up and re-imaged the computer with my earlier System Image and now
> > > the computer is fine again. (using it to type this)
> > >
> > > I just have to reinstall a few programs that got deleted, but nothing
> > > important.
> > >
> > > I see you ran two extensive hard drive checks, which didn't find any
> > > problems, so not sure why you are going to replace your hard drive. Didn't
> > > you say it was working OK?
> > >
> > > rogerX
> > >
> > > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
> > > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, Roger.--
> > >> This is pretty much in line with my experience and thoughts. I have made
> > > the
> > >> System repair disk, and I have the Win7 upgrade (from Vista) disk. (Both
> > >> Belt and Suspenders).
> > >> One funny thing-- The System disk (at first) would not let me run
> > > "Upgrade"
> > >> because it found that I had already upgraded. After I found the repair CD
> > >> and could get to the backup files and (after two tries) got things
> > >> working
> > >
> > >> again, Then it would let me into the Upgrade option. ??
> > >> This group has been a real help, both contributing and psychologically.
> > >> Bill--W4BSG
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "RogerX19" <helpmeroger@>
> > >> To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:03 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Bill,
> > >> >
> > >> > I think all the suggestions about bootable disks is for people not
> > > running
> > >> > Windows 7.
> > >> >
> > >> > As you found out, one of the things available in the Windows 7 Backup
> > > and
> > >> > Restore utility is to Create a System Repair Disc.
> > >> >
> > >> > This is just a bootable CD or DVD that can be used to boot the
> > >> > computer.
> > >
> > >> > It has a few repair tools on it, and can be used to access any System
> > >> > Images that you created with the Backup and Restore utility. It does
> > >> > not
> > >
> > >> > contain the Images.
> > >> >
> > >> > I've used it before, and it actually works quite well. I had to use it
> > >> > again yesterday when my current Windows 7 became unstable and BSOD'd
> > > with
> > >> > some weird message that I was not able to Google a remedy for.
> > >> >
> > >> > Acronis and all are fine for pre-Win7 computers, but Win7 doesn't need
> > > it.
> > >> > (not sure about Vista - but I wouldn't trust it)
> > >> >
> > >> > For all Windows 7 users: Be sure to Create a system repair disc if you
> > >> > don't have a Microsoft Win7 installation disk, and also "Create a
> > >> > system
> > >
> > >> > image" every now and then when the computer is running good.
> > >> >
> > >> > System Restore is fine, when it works, but when it doesn't you need a
> > >> > System Image, or you'll have to reinstall Windows from the beginning.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > rogerX
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --- In simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Reply to my own post--
> > >> >> Please forgive the errors-- the first line picked up some stuff
> > >> >> "during
> > >> >> boot-up)" and, near the end, the spellchecker changed "Acronis" to
> > >> >> "Acronyms".
> > >> >> Both, I should have spotted.
> > >> >> Bill--W4BSG
> > >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> From: "Bill Aycock" <billaycock@>
> > >> >> To: <simplycomputers2@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:05 PM
> > >> >> Subject: [Simply Computers] backup and restore
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > during boot-up)Vincent, Roger, Bob Austino, and other backup Buffs--
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